THEO DE RAADT

The primary goal of a vendor is to make money.

C++ is a pile of crap.

I don't know if there's enough vision. Industry wide, the apathy regarding this recent problem is already setting in - shiny things are happening elsewhere, people are forgetting.

[...] beer results in ideas, which results in new code.

Only failure makes us experts.

I actually am fairly uncomfortable about it, even if our firm stipulation was that they cannot tell us what to do. We are simply doing what we do anyways - securing software - and they have no say in the matter. I try to convince myself that our grant means a half of a cruise missile doesn't get built.

I work on OpenBSD fulltime, as the project leader. I set some directions, increase communication between the developers, and try to be involved in nearly every aspect of the base system.

In some industry markets, high quality can be tied to making more money, but I am sure by now all of us know the computer industry is not like that.

I started working on OpenBSD, and many earlier projects, because I have always felt that vendor systems were not designed for quality.

Linux has never been about quality. There are so many parts of the system that are just these cheap little hacks, and it happens to run.

The primary goal of a vendor is to make money.

Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft.

I work on OpenBSD fulltime, as the project leader. I set some directions, increase communication between the developers, and try to be involved in nearly every aspect of the base system.

In some industry markets, high quality can be tied to making more money, but I am sure by now all of us know the computer industry is not like that.

Linux has never been about quality. There are so many parts of the system that are just these cheap little hacks, and it happens to run.

I started working on OpenBSD, and many earlier projects, because I have always felt that vendor systems were not designed for quality.

C++ is a pile of crap.

What's so exciting is to be able to just take something and polish it so much that hopefully in the future people will start borrowing things from it.

So the HP guy comes up to me (at the Melbourne conference) and he says, 'If you say nasty things like that to vendors you're not going to get anything'. I said, 'No, in eight years of saying nothing, we've got nothing, and I'm going to start saying nasty things, in the hope that some of these vendors will start giving me money so I'll shut up'.

I actually am fairly uncomfortable about it, even if our firm stipulation was that they cannot tell us what to do. We are simply doing what we do anyways - securing software - and they have no say in the matter. I try to convince myself that our grant means a half of a cruise missile doesn't get built.

[...] beer results in ideas, which results in new code.

I think it is astounding that people could argue for "you just must trust someone else to fix it" instead of "you could fix it yourself, or hire someone to fix it." There is a contractor base out there that can solve these problems as well as or better than the major vendors could. But I think the major vendors are still having more luck at getting the ear of the press.

I don't know if there's enough vision. Industry wide, the apathy regarding this recent problem is already setting in - shiny things are happening elsewhere, people are forgetting.

Only failure makes us experts.